Attendees:
Members:
Jeremy Nelson, Koch
Andrew Rentsch, Huntsman
Nate Sutton, Equity Engineering
Karen Picker, Sandvik
Staff:
Heather Allain, MTI
Byron Keelin, MTI
Building off Nate's meeting notes from our previous discussion on Feb 18, 2022, shown below in black, and our previous meeting notes on March 24th, updates from today are shown in GREEN.
Deadline for speaker commitments: April 29th
Deadline for speaker presentations to be submitted for review: Friday May 27th, to allow time for review and comment cycle
Topic and Speaker List
- Renewable Hydrocarbon Biofuels – Overview, Laws/Regulations, and US Government Perspective / DOE Outlook
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- Byron contacted Eileen Chant (US DOE), she suggested Zia Haq (Senior Analyst with Bioenergy Technology Office, BETO)
- Zia Haq | Department of Energy
- Byron to inquire if Zia can also speak to European Regulatory Considerations topic (Haldor Topse has declined this topic)
- Zia declined/cannot speak on EU side, and has not confirmed travel for in-presentation to speak on US DOE side.
- Geoff Cooper CEO of Renewables Fuels Association - @Byron Keelin will reach out and ask to speak on market incentives, specifically for renewable diesel, bio diesel, and ethanol blending.
- Federal Credits or California Air Resources Board (CARB)? @Nathaniel Sutton will reach out to CARB or Marcela (Chevron, California market) to discuss credits being offered in California.
- Renewable Diesel in Europe – Regulatory Considerations, Market Development and Outlook
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- Karen contacted Maria and Anette at Haldor Topsoe, they cannot speak on this topic, but will provide speaker on materials selection (see below)
- Byron to inquire if Zia can also speak to European Regulatory Considerations topic (see topic 1 above) - Zia declined/cannot speak on EU side.
- Nate reached out to ICCT with topic idea requesting speaker
- Renewable Energy Group (REG) – recently purchased by Chevron? Karen indicates they are active in this space at other conferences, European based?, frequent speakers at bio diesel forums. Nate may have previous contact, or inquire if Marcela can connect @Nathaniel Sutton
- Hydrotreating Bio-Oils: Renewable Diesel Unit Process, Catalyst, and Layout Considerations
- Anette Hansson, Haldor Topsoe, can speak on materials selection in biofuels Hydroprocessing units
- need to confirm if Anette plans to be in-person or present over Zoom (Byron emailed Karen asking on 3/24)
- Heather spoke to Anette recently, confirms she will attend in person
- Garry Jacobs/alternative Fluor contact (Cathy following up if Haldor is out)
- Cathy mentioned Garry Jacobs, would be connecting virtually, if speaking, as Flour only sending 1 representative to meeting in-person.
- Pretreatment of Renewable Feedstock – Objectives, Types of Pretreatment units and downstream implications
- Potential Speaker Garry Jacobs or alternative from Fluor (Cathy following up)
- Team discussed combining this topic with the next on Damage Mechanisms
- Cathy: Licensors include Desmet Ballestra Desmet Ballestra - Science Behind Technology, and Alfa Laval
- @Nathaniel Sutton to follow up with Cathy to get contact at Desmet. If Desmet doesn't work out, consider Garry from Fluor, however would like attend virtually per Cathy's prior comment, Fluor 1 person attending.
- Damage Mechanisms in pretreatment Biofuels processing units
- Chirag Joshi, UOP (Chris will contact Chirag) or Jeremy Staats (Becht – I think Chris was also going to reach out to Jeremy if Chirag can't present)
- @Heather Allain will reach out to Chirag Shah (UOP). If not, follow up with Becht options.
- Name correction: Chirag Shah (UOP)
- Chris Wozniak (Marathon) has reached out to Chirag and no reply yet. Will make second attempt today 3/24
- Jeremy Staats (Becht) suggested Matt Caserta or Andy Gysbers (both with Becht) as potential alternative speakers for this topic
- Leveraging IOWs to Enhance Renewable Diesel Unit Reliability and Profitability
- Nate Sutton – Equity Engineering
- Nate confirmed his interest and availability
- Cathy mentioned Flour is presenting on a similar topic upcoming AsiaTAC meeting April 27th "Establishing Integrity Operating Windows (IOWs) for Biofuels HDO Units"
- Transportation, Storage and Handling of Renewable feeds
- Potential Speaker – Polymeric coating/lining supplier (Dale Heffner will talk to Polymer suppliers)
- Dale Heffner reached out to has spoken with several coating suppliers, most are predominantly oriented towards rail car lining, so they might redirect us towards another person for tankage or process equipment. International (AkzoNobel) is the big player in biofuels rail and storage. Both Marathon and Haldor are big users. They indicated Gino is a good start for International, but may opt for their relevant SME.
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- Cathy mentioned some problem areas with possible applications for nonmetallics
- Testing of chemical resistant coatings immersion coupons versus cell tests, which gets us into permeation and bond strength evaluation
- Controversial area mentioned by Cathy Shargay feeds at 180-degree F and above.
- Bob Bernard at International referenced by Nate Sutton. Nate reached out to Bob on 4/14 to speak on 3rd bullet listed below.
- Potential presentation outline
- Intro polymers PDC
- DH (5 minutes) Problematic areas where non/metallics may be a solution
- Coating Supplier (15-20 minutes) Current coating used in biofuels Railcars, Storage tanks and process vessels (International) (Nate reached out to Bob Bernard w/ International on 4/14)
- Testing coating and lining systems (immersion testing versus ASTM C-868 cell testing) DH (15-20 minutes).
Roundtable Meeting Format Discussion
- Agenda timing will be based on confirmation of speakers, and their proposed presentation time.
- Team agreed meeting could occur over the full day: Tuesday June 21st, 8am to 4pm
- Preference to have all presenters attend in-person, due to Roundtable discussion format
- Member reception will occur after the Roundtable
- MTI Staff / Jeremy / Andrew to discuss pricing strategy offline
- Byron is collecting input on next version of flyer advertising Biofuels Roundtable
- Andrew suggested including photo from MTI Project instead of lifecycle image?
- Nate suggested getting flyer on MTI website homepage, LinkedIn, ASAP in order to "Save the Date" and raise awareness (Lindsey confirmed LinkedIn post next week, and will be in MTI Connect in April)
- @Byron Keelin or @Chris Matthes please change title of this community 385 to "Renewable Diesel Roundtable"
- Future meetings will coincide with routine TAC planning and will include smaller group (Nate + Karen as Project Champions, and the regular TAC Planning Group)
- MTI Staff @Heather Allain will try to promote event through Inspectioneering and BIC (Business and Industry Connection)
@Jeremy Nelson reaching out to Kent Colman / EPRI staff as possible Structured Forum Speaker
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Andrew Rentsch
Materials Engineer
Huntsman
The Woodlands TX
9894300120
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